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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2010/03/14/motorbike/comment-page-1#comment-28729</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I to like the cruiser style on a bike, i find the rides are more enjoyable and the typical cruiser usually has a large enough tank to get you 300-400 kms down the road, at highway speeds. Plus the average cruiser sits around 3000rpm at a comfortable highway speed. Then there are the cafe racers, or crotch rockets, which rev at 7000rpm and get you 100kms down the road. Another nice thing about cruisers is that you can find ones that are 4-5 years old for about $5000 and are in great shape. My sister recently bought an &#039;06 honda shadow 750 aero with 10,000 kms on it for about $5500.

P.s.
If anyone is looking for a starter bike for next year i will be selling my Yamaha&quot;ha&quot; XJ 550 Maxim for $1500. $1800 if you want a passenger seat bag and tank bag included. i will be selling it in August, because i am looking for a cruiser between 750 and 1100ccs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to like the cruiser style on a bike, i find the rides are more enjoyable and the typical cruiser usually has a large enough tank to get you 300-400 kms down the road, at highway speeds. Plus the average cruiser sits around 3000rpm at a comfortable highway speed. Then there are the cafe racers, or crotch rockets, which rev at 7000rpm and get you 100kms down the road. Another nice thing about cruisers is that you can find ones that are 4-5 years old for about $5000 and are in great shape. My sister recently bought an &#8217;06 honda shadow 750 aero with 10,000 kms on it for about $5500.</p>
<p>P.s.<br />
If anyone is looking for a starter bike for next year i will be selling my Yamaha&#8221;ha&#8221; XJ 550 Maxim for $1500. $1800 if you want a passenger seat bag and tank bag included. i will be selling it in August, because i am looking for a cruiser between 750 and 1100ccs</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2010/03/14/motorbike/comment-page-1#comment-28459</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IDIC one was on my list, but I hadn&#039;t thought of abbreviating Live Long and Prosper.  I also have AMOKTM (Amok Time) and PONFAR (Pon Farr) on my list ;)

I&#039;ll have to narrow my list down to five alternates in order of preference when I get my insurance and registration.  Looking at the application form, I notice that I have to explain each &quot;slogan&quot;: that should be fun ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IDIC one was on my list, but I hadn&#8217;t thought of abbreviating Live Long and Prosper.  I also have AMOKTM (Amok Time) and PONFAR (Pon Farr) on my list <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to narrow my list down to five alternates in order of preference when I get my insurance and registration.  Looking at the application form, I notice that I have to explain each &#8220;slogan&#8221;: that should be fun <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim HIldebrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim HIldebrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Custom plate ideas :)

IDIC  (infinite diversity in infinite combinations)

LLAP  (live long and prosper)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Custom plate ideas <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>IDIC  (infinite diversity in infinite combinations)</p>
<p>LLAP  (live long and prosper)</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2010/03/14/motorbike/comment-page-1#comment-28450</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tattoos!  I knew I forgot something {gets out pen and start stabbing arm}...

Re: Wild Hogs- no, but now I have something to dig up and watch!  I recall seeing the ads for that, if I&#039;m thinking of the right movie- John Travolta and Tim Allen were in it.  Thanks, Chris ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tattoos!  I knew I forgot something {gets out pen and start stabbing arm}&#8230;</p>
<p>Re: Wild Hogs- no, but now I have something to dig up and watch!  I recall seeing the ads for that, if I&#8217;m thinking of the right movie- John Travolta and Tim Allen were in it.  Thanks, Chris <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really though, how are you going to look the part if you loose weight and don&#039;t have any tattoos? ;)

BTW:  You have seen the movie &quot;Wild Hogs&quot;? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really though, how are you going to look the part if you loose weight and don&#8217;t have any tattoos? <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW:  You have seen the movie &#8220;Wild Hogs&#8221;? <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have the right approach, Jim.  I&#039;m a little leery about getting a big (to me) bike like the Vulcan 900, and arguably I should be riding something with around 500 cc.  I rode a 250cc bike 26 years ago (!!), and right now it is going to be like starting over again. 

I am optimistic, however, that the training I&#039;m taking plus the ease of handling the Vulcan is purported to have will make it comfortable for me.  There is a reason, though, that motorcycle lessons are usually done using bikes of about the 250cc size.  Any bike 500cc and up is basically too big to &quot;toss around&quot;: 400 pounds and up (over 600 pounds for the Vulcan) means even getting the bike on its wheels from a prone position is a challenge.  

I&#039;ve put my deposit down and now &quot;own&quot; a Vulcan: I put &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=200999&amp;id=541372641&amp;l=a65e4d9f1d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some pictures up on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; which, hopefully, folks can see.  I won&#039;t be taking possession until late April/early May, once I&#039;ve completed my basic motorbike skills test at least.  I sat on it today, though: it feels pretty good, and my feet sit flat on the ground.  But this is definitely a big bike, and I could feel the weight as I shifted it from leg to leg.  

One really important consideration regarding the Vulcan: the bike name is way cooler than &quot;Boulevard&quot;, and lends itself to all sorts of custom plate ideas ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have the right approach, Jim.  I&#8217;m a little leery about getting a big (to me) bike like the Vulcan 900, and arguably I should be riding something with around 500 cc.  I rode a 250cc bike 26 years ago (!!), and right now it is going to be like starting over again. </p>
<p>I am optimistic, however, that the training I&#8217;m taking plus the ease of handling the Vulcan is purported to have will make it comfortable for me.  There is a reason, though, that motorcycle lessons are usually done using bikes of about the 250cc size.  Any bike 500cc and up is basically too big to &#8220;toss around&#8221;: 400 pounds and up (over 600 pounds for the Vulcan) means even getting the bike on its wheels from a prone position is a challenge.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve put my deposit down and now &#8220;own&#8221; a Vulcan: I put <a href="http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=200999&#038;id=541372641&#038;l=a65e4d9f1d" rel="nofollow">some pictures up on Facebook</a> which, hopefully, folks can see.  I won&#8217;t be taking possession until late April/early May, once I&#8217;ve completed my basic motorbike skills test at least.  I sat on it today, though: it feels pretty good, and my feet sit flat on the ground.  But this is definitely a big bike, and I could feel the weight as I shifted it from leg to leg.  </p>
<p>One really important consideration regarding the Vulcan: the bike name is way cooler than &#8220;Boulevard&#8221;, and lends itself to all sorts of custom plate ideas <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim HIldebrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim HIldebrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The V-Twin is the Harley I&#039;d buy if I was going to buy a Harley but I wouldn&#039;t pick that as my first bike.  I would definitely start off with something smaller.  I might not even start off with the Vulcan.  I would probably try to find a smaller 250-500 cc used bike in good condition because I am sure that my personal riding learning curve would involve the bike sliding on the road a couple of times. :) Once I was comfortable on my training bike then I would look to upgrading to the Vulcan.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The V-Twin is the Harley I&#8217;d buy if I was going to buy a Harley but I wouldn&#8217;t pick that as my first bike.  I would definitely start off with something smaller.  I might not even start off with the Vulcan.  I would probably try to find a smaller 250-500 cc used bike in good condition because I am sure that my personal riding learning curve would involve the bike sliding on the road a couple of times. <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Once I was comfortable on my training bike then I would look to upgrading to the Vulcan.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMW makes nice bikes, although you are seated more in the &quot;racer&quot; position (leaning forward) than I&#039;d like.  And yes, you&#039;d need money to burn- around $20k for that bike, I think.  Interesting fact: the local RCMP is replacing their Harleys with BMWs: kitted out for police use, they are over $30k.  As for BMWs: I hate the drivers, don&#039;t mind the cars, like the bikes ;)

If I had unlimited money and had at least a couple of years of riding under my belt, I&#039;d probably look at something like the Harley Electra Glide or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kawasaki.ca/model/vulcan-1700-voyager-abs:1204&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vulcan 1700 Voyager&lt;/a&gt;.   That is, I&#039;d be looking at larger engines, frame-affixed fairings, and more luggage: the basic riding position/style is the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW makes nice bikes, although you are seated more in the &#8220;racer&#8221; position (leaning forward) than I&#8217;d like.  And yes, you&#8217;d need money to burn- around $20k for that bike, I think.  Interesting fact: the local RCMP is replacing their Harleys with BMWs: kitted out for police use, they are over $30k.  As for BMWs: I hate the drivers, don&#8217;t mind the cars, like the bikes <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If I had unlimited money and had at least a couple of years of riding under my belt, I&#8217;d probably look at something like the Harley Electra Glide or <a href="http://www.kawasaki.ca/model/vulcan-1700-voyager-abs:1204" rel="nofollow">Vulcan 1700 Voyager</a>.   That is, I&#8217;d be looking at larger engines, frame-affixed fairings, and more luggage: the basic riding position/style is the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You aren&#039;t buying a bike as daily transportation, nor are you joining a &quot;lifestyle&quot; ... you are buying what amounts to a big expensive toy.  As such, you don&#039;t need any reason to want one over another other than, &quot;That one looks cool.&quot;  :D

And of course, everyone&#039;s idea of cool is different.  If I developed a large surplus of cash that I needed to remove ( ;) ) and was going to buy a bike to play with I&#039;d probably get a BMW tourer, because I&#039;ve always liked their looks (Hate the cars, like the bikes. ) 

Something like a BMW 1200 RT:
http://www.superbike.co.uk/imageBank/r/R%201200%20RT%20LE%20Image%201.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You aren&#8217;t buying a bike as daily transportation, nor are you joining a &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; &#8230; you are buying what amounts to a big expensive toy.  As such, you don&#8217;t need any reason to want one over another other than, &#8220;That one looks cool.&#8221;  <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And of course, everyone&#8217;s idea of cool is different.  If I developed a large surplus of cash that I needed to remove ( <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and was going to buy a bike to play with I&#8217;d probably get a BMW tourer, because I&#8217;ve always liked their looks (Hate the cars, like the bikes. ) </p>
<p>Something like a BMW 1200 RT:<br />
<a href="http://www.superbike.co.uk/imageBank/r/R%201200%20RT%20LE%20Image%201.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.superbike.co.uk/imageBank/r/R%201200%20RT%20LE%20Image%201.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jim!  Good to hear from you.  Hopefully you&#039;ll chime in more often- I miss chatting with you.

I&#039;m partial to a particular riding &quot;posture&quot;: I guess you&#039;d call it a cruising position.  The cafe racer style bikes have you bending forward and putting your knees up near your chest, sort of a &quot;foetal&quot; position and that doesn&#039;t appeal to me at all.  The &quot;standard&quot; bike position is very upright, which I am okay with, but my preference is to have my feet a bit in front of center line and be leaning back a bit.  Not quite a &quot;chopper&quot; position, where your hands end up above your eyebrows, but more relaxed.  Another key factor for me is low seat height, so my feet are flat or close to flat on the ground when I extend them.  

Harleys are nice bikes, and I wouldn&#039;t fault anyone for wanting one.  In the last couple of decades since they brought out &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson_Evolution_engine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Evolution V-Twin motor&lt;/a&gt; they&#039;ve gone from being oil leaking perpetual maintenance machines to well-behaved but still definitive bikes.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010_motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_CA&amp;bmLocale=en_CA#/model/xl1200c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1200 Sportster&lt;/a&gt; is what Shane has (hopefully I get this right).  

For myself, I prefer a somewhat more &quot;sedate&quot; ride, and wanted something with a liquid cooled motor.  As much as I appreciate the qualities of the Harley, it didn&#039;t &quot;leap out&quot; at me like the Vulcan did when I looked at it.  That is a bit of a weak explanation as to why I picked the Vulcan over a Harley, but that&#039;s the best explanation I can give.  I guess that&#039;s why there are so many bikes with similar but not identical features: bikes are pretty individualistic machines, maybe even more so than cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jim!  Good to hear from you.  Hopefully you&#8217;ll chime in more often- I miss chatting with you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m partial to a particular riding &#8220;posture&#8221;: I guess you&#8217;d call it a cruising position.  The cafe racer style bikes have you bending forward and putting your knees up near your chest, sort of a &#8220;foetal&#8221; position and that doesn&#8217;t appeal to me at all.  The &#8220;standard&#8221; bike position is very upright, which I am okay with, but my preference is to have my feet a bit in front of center line and be leaning back a bit.  Not quite a &#8220;chopper&#8221; position, where your hands end up above your eyebrows, but more relaxed.  Another key factor for me is low seat height, so my feet are flat or close to flat on the ground when I extend them.  </p>
<p>Harleys are nice bikes, and I wouldn&#8217;t fault anyone for wanting one.  In the last couple of decades since they brought out <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson_Evolution_engine" rel="nofollow">the Evolution V-Twin motor</a> they&#8217;ve gone from being oil leaking perpetual maintenance machines to well-behaved but still definitive bikes.  The <a href="http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010_motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_CA&#038;bmLocale=en_CA#/model/xl1200c" rel="nofollow">1200 Sportster</a> is what Shane has (hopefully I get this right).  </p>
<p>For myself, I prefer a somewhat more &#8220;sedate&#8221; ride, and wanted something with a liquid cooled motor.  As much as I appreciate the qualities of the Harley, it didn&#8217;t &#8220;leap out&#8221; at me like the Vulcan did when I looked at it.  That is a bit of a weak explanation as to why I picked the Vulcan over a Harley, but that&#8217;s the best explanation I can give.  I guess that&#8217;s why there are so many bikes with similar but not identical features: bikes are pretty individualistic machines, maybe even more so than cars.</p>
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