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	<title>Comments on: House explosion reveals antiquated notion of housing market</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Oblivions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oblivions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because this both depresses the crap out of me and riles me up, I'm not going to weigh in on this except to say, with a slightly evil smirk, that it's pretty funny when people have to start remedial work on these million dollar homes. Suddenly they start to feel a little ripped off. It will take a another 5 -10 years for the full failures to come to it's full light but when it does a million dollar home is going to look like even less of deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because this both depresses the crap out of me and riles me up, I&#8217;m not going to weigh in on this except to say, with a slightly evil smirk, that it&#8217;s pretty funny when people have to start remedial work on these million dollar homes. Suddenly they start to feel a little ripped off. It will take a another 5 -10 years for the full failures to come to it&#8217;s full light but when it does a million dollar home is going to look like even less of deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in the lower mainland, I think the current prices are the new "standard", and I don't expect them to go down.  It really isn't possible for the average consumer making an average salary to buy a free-standing single family home.  A two or three bedroom condo is in reach, but only if you are willing to get a 30 year mortgage and pray that interest rates don't go up.

I can understand why a reporter might get the misguided impression that a million dollar home is something special.  Just a decade ago, this was true just about anywhere in Canada.  Now, though, there are plenty of places where that kind of price is more or less "normal": certainly not a price to associate with champagne dreams and caviar lifestyles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in the lower mainland, I think the current prices are the new &#8220;standard&#8221;, and I don&#8217;t expect them to go down.  It really isn&#8217;t possible for the average consumer making an average salary to buy a free-standing single family home.  A two or three bedroom condo is in reach, but only if you are willing to get a 30 year mortgage and pray that interest rates don&#8217;t go up.</p>
<p>I can understand why a reporter might get the misguided impression that a million dollar home is something special.  Just a decade ago, this was true just about anywhere in Canada.  Now, though, there are plenty of places where that kind of price is more or less &#8220;normal&#8221;: certainly not a price to associate with champagne dreams and caviar lifestyles.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Edmonton, a house of that size and vintage would go on the market asking 350 to 500 thousand depending on the neighbourhood.  It would actually sell for 100K less than that - if it sold.  That's still 2 to 3 times what it would have commanded 8 years ago, but the insane bubble of last spring has deflated.

Are those prices sustainable over the long term?  Possibly in the lower mainland where there is a true scarcity of space and a historical desire for people to move there.

Here even in "oil rich" Alberta the average household income, before taxes, is 70K. When you match that up against a 240k asking price for a one bedroom condo in the boonies cheaply built with chipboard and vinyl siding and a lovely ground floor view of a parking lot... no. Either wages have to go way up, especially for the lower earners or house prices have to come down.

The really sad thing is that thanks to the sub prime mortgage idiocy probably all of our pensions depend on these really ordinary houses actually being worth 3- 4 times what they really should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Edmonton, a house of that size and vintage would go on the market asking 350 to 500 thousand depending on the neighbourhood.  It would actually sell for 100K less than that - if it sold.  That&#8217;s still 2 to 3 times what it would have commanded 8 years ago, but the insane bubble of last spring has deflated.</p>
<p>Are those prices sustainable over the long term?  Possibly in the lower mainland where there is a true scarcity of space and a historical desire for people to move there.</p>
<p>Here even in &#8220;oil rich&#8221; Alberta the average household income, before taxes, is 70K. When you match that up against a 240k asking price for a one bedroom condo in the boonies cheaply built with chipboard and vinyl siding and a lovely ground floor view of a parking lot&#8230; no. Either wages have to go way up, especially for the lower earners or house prices have to come down.</p>
<p>The really sad thing is that thanks to the sub prime mortgage idiocy probably all of our pensions depend on these really ordinary houses actually being worth 3- 4 times what they really should be.</p>
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