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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-30466</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect Adventure PC Games&#039; comment is likely spam, but it does raise a somewhat interesting question.  I have a pretty clear recollection of playing war and strategy games at a friend&#039;s house when I was in about Grade 5 (i.e.: I was 11 years old- that would be 35 years ago).  Later, when I was about 15 and the state of the computing art was Zork, I played Dungeons and Dragons using books, paper, pens, miniatures, and stacks of dice.  

Adventure, role playing, and strategy games have all been around for decades before computers came on the scene.  I suppose &quot;action&quot; or first person shooter games are &quot;new&quot; inventions, as are full simulations (e.g.: flight or driving simulators): pen and paper can&#039;t really keep do a very good job of real-time responsiveness, which is something computers excel at.  

But humans have been playing games of actually quite startling complexity for far longer than computers have been around.  We just had to be a bit more patient and willing to put up with certain inconveniences back in the old days ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect Adventure PC Games&#8217; comment is likely spam, but it does raise a somewhat interesting question.  I have a pretty clear recollection of playing war and strategy games at a friend&#8217;s house when I was in about Grade 5 (i.e.: I was 11 years old- that would be 35 years ago).  Later, when I was about 15 and the state of the computing art was Zork, I played Dungeons and Dragons using books, paper, pens, miniatures, and stacks of dice.  </p>
<p>Adventure, role playing, and strategy games have all been around for decades before computers came on the scene.  I suppose &#8220;action&#8221; or first person shooter games are &#8220;new&#8221; inventions, as are full simulations (e.g.: flight or driving simulators): pen and paper can&#8217;t really keep do a very good job of real-time responsiveness, which is something computers excel at.  </p>
<p>But humans have been playing games of actually quite startling complexity for far longer than computers have been around.  We just had to be a bit more patient and willing to put up with certain inconveniences back in the old days <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adventure PC Games</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-30238</link>
		<dc:creator>Adventure PC Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did people do before the invention of pc games?</description>
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		<title>By: Risen: Spiritual successor to Gothic 3 &#124; Kelly&#39;s World- A View into the mind of Uber Geek, Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-27348</link>
		<dc:creator>Risen: Spiritual successor to Gothic 3 &#124; Kelly&#39;s World- A View into the mind of Uber Geek, Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] publisher. This may not be a bad thing: Gothic 3 (the last game released under this name) was a bit of a buggy mess, and so distancing their latest game from this name for now might be a good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] publisher. This may not be a bad thing: Gothic 3 (the last game released under this name) was a bit of a buggy mess, and so distancing their latest game from this name for now might be a good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-22117</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings, Trevar!  It has been over a year since I last played Gothic 3 and, to be honest, once I got it working I didn&#039;t keep up with other technical issues/problems folks were having installing.

If you have Vista 64, then follow my instructions above and see if that helps: basically, the problem with Vista 64 is that the included copy protection software with Gothic 3 doesn&#039;t run properly under the 64 bit version of Windows.  If you are running a different version of Windows, or if my guidance doesn&#039;t help you, then check out the Gothic 3 support forums: there is a link to that in my original post.  Use the search function there and see if you can find a post or two regarding the problems you are experiencing- I found a lot of useful information there.  You can also post a new entry in that forum explaining the details of the error you are seeing and your configuration (OS version, memory, video card) and hopefully get some help that way.

Best of luck to you in terms of getting the game to work: It was fairly decent once I finally got it going :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings, Trevar!  It has been over a year since I last played Gothic 3 and, to be honest, once I got it working I didn&#8217;t keep up with other technical issues/problems folks were having installing.</p>
<p>If you have Vista 64, then follow my instructions above and see if that helps: basically, the problem with Vista 64 is that the included copy protection software with Gothic 3 doesn&#8217;t run properly under the 64 bit version of Windows.  If you are running a different version of Windows, or if my guidance doesn&#8217;t help you, then check out the Gothic 3 support forums: there is a link to that in my original post.  Use the search function there and see if you can find a post or two regarding the problems you are experiencing- I found a lot of useful information there.  You can also post a new entry in that forum explaining the details of the error you are seeing and your configuration (OS version, memory, video card) and hopefully get some help that way.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you in terms of getting the game to work: It was fairly decent once I finally got it going <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: trevar</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-22108</link>
		<dc:creator>trevar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the genome system error when I try to run the game, I changed the DEP setings and still doesnt work, I have the 1.5 patch as well, can you help me? thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the genome system error when I try to run the game, I changed the DEP setings and still doesnt work, I have the 1.5 patch as well, can you help me? thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Klinn</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-20339</link>
		<dc:creator>Klinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy!

Just wanted to say thanks for publishing this information. I followed the three steps listed and now Gothic3 runs just fine. Very strange about the font issue, but I&#039;m delighted that you showed how to fix it. I&#039;ve got an nVidia 8800GTX and experienced exactly the same symptoms you described for ATI cards.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy!</p>
<p>Just wanted to say thanks for publishing this information. I followed the three steps listed and now Gothic3 runs just fine. Very strange about the font issue, but I&#8217;m delighted that you showed how to fix it. I&#8217;ve got an nVidia 8800GTX and experienced exactly the same symptoms you described for ATI cards.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-9733</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting, Alex G.!  

If my hints don&#039;t help, I&#039;d suggest checking out &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.jowood.com/forumdisplay.php?f=492&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the JoWood technical forums&lt;/a&gt; I mentioned in the original post.  There are dozens of different problems folks seem to have experienced depending on their hardware or drivers- if you don&#039;t see a post there with a problem that sounds similar to yours, start a new thread.  I found the responses there to be reasonably helpful, at least by the standards of internet support forums.

UPDATE: &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.jowood.com/showpost.php?p=2036672&amp;postcount=10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one specific thread from the JoWood forums &lt;/a&gt;relates to some users experiencing the Genome failure having some success with disabling (or excluding Gothic3.exe from) Vista&#039;s Data Execution Prevention feature.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting, Alex G.!  </p>
<p>If my hints don&#8217;t help, I&#8217;d suggest checking out <a href="http://forum.jowood.com/forumdisplay.php?f=492" rel="nofollow">the JoWood technical forums</a> I mentioned in the original post.  There are dozens of different problems folks seem to have experienced depending on their hardware or drivers- if you don&#8217;t see a post there with a problem that sounds similar to yours, start a new thread.  I found the responses there to be reasonably helpful, at least by the standards of internet support forums.</p>
<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://forum.jowood.com/showpost.php?p=2036672&#038;postcount=10" rel="nofollow">one specific thread from the JoWood forums </a>relates to some users experiencing the Genome failure having some success with disabling (or excluding Gothic3.exe from) Vista&#8217;s Data Execution Prevention feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the hints, but I still can&#039;t get the game to run. It gets shut down before I can get an error message other than &quot;Genome Gaming System has stopped woring&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the hints, but I still can&#8217;t get the game to run. It gets shut down before I can get an error message other than &#8220;Genome Gaming System has stopped woring&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2007/03/07/gothic-3-and-vista-getting-it-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-9601</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings, Dave! 

I&#039;m running DX10 (Vista Ultimate 64 bit edition), and am not getting a direct3d error on startup: the game launches and plays fine for me once I deal with the problems I mentioned in my original post.  In my case, I&#039;m using an ATI X1950XTX video card with the latest (Catalyst 7.3) drivers.  However, I&#039;d really expect an nVidia geForce card to work as well or better.  

If you aren&#039;t using the latest nVidia drivers downloaded from their site, then try that.  If it still fails...well, you could try checking out the publisher&#039;s forums (see the link in my original post).  Let me know how it goes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings, Dave! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m running DX10 (Vista Ultimate 64 bit edition), and am not getting a direct3d error on startup: the game launches and plays fine for me once I deal with the problems I mentioned in my original post.  In my case, I&#8217;m using an ATI X1950XTX video card with the latest (Catalyst 7.3) drivers.  However, I&#8217;d really expect an nVidia geForce card to work as well or better.  </p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t using the latest nVidia drivers downloaded from their site, then try that.  If it still fails&#8230;well, you could try checking out the publisher&#8217;s forums (see the link in my original post).  Let me know how it goes!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these helpful pointers, was just wondering whether there is any solution to the direct3d call error when gothic 3 tries to load up,guess directx 10 dont like directx 9 too much yet or is it lack of stable display drivers? My system specs are amd x2 dual core 4200 2gb ddr2 ram geforce 7900gs 512 mb ddr3
Any help would be apreciated, davekarios@aol.com
Thanks for you&#039;re time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these helpful pointers, was just wondering whether there is any solution to the direct3d call error when gothic 3 tries to load up,guess directx 10 dont like directx 9 too much yet or is it lack of stable display drivers? My system specs are amd x2 dual core 4200 2gb ddr2 ram geforce 7900gs 512 mb ddr3<br />
Any help would be apreciated, <a href="mailto:davekarios@aol.com">davekarios@aol.com</a><br />
Thanks for you&#8217;re time.</p>
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