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	<title>Comments on: Blog spam continues to pour in: Akismet starting to miss some&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;ll Never Fly &#187; The Spam Saga Continues&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2006/05/22/blog-spam-continues-to-pour-in-akismet-starting-to-miss-some#comment-2780</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;ll Never Fly &#187; The Spam Saga Continues&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 05:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The number of spam comments is steady at over a hundred a day, and Akismet is starting to miss more and more (this stats chart might explain why). I had to moderate about 12 over the long weekend (all of which were spam). Another blogger has noticed the same thing. Following his lead, I&#8217;ve installed Bad Behaviour, so I&#8217;ll have to keep my eyes open to see of the number of spam comments dwindles. I&#8217;ve also read some discussions about another plugin called Spam Karma that I might check out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The number of spam comments is steady at over a hundred a day, and Akismet is starting to miss more and more (this stats chart might explain why). I had to moderate about 12 over the long weekend (all of which were spam). Another blogger has noticed the same thing. Following his lead, I&#8217;ve installed Bad Behaviour, so I&#8217;ll have to keep my eyes open to see of the number of spam comments dwindles. I&#8217;ve also read some discussions about another plugin called Spam Karma that I might check out. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2006/05/22/blog-spam-continues-to-pour-in-akismet-starting-to-miss-some#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 20:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you being your own support forum, I am my own web host :)  The server running this site is upstairs in my house.

I have no reverse proxy installed.  In terms of Apache config...I'm running four VHosts on the same Apache instance.  The only other "strange" thing is I'm using that I can think of is mod_deflate.

This is what I'm seeing in the Bad Behavior log table for Feedster:
&lt;pre&gt;http_headers:&lt;br /&gt;
GET /feed/ HTTP/1.1&lt;br /&gt;
TE: deflate,gzip;q=0.3&lt;br /&gt;
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, compress&lt;br /&gt;
From: webmaster@feedster.com&lt;br /&gt;
Host: www.kgadams.net&lt;br /&gt;
If-Modified-Since: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:26:38 GMT&lt;br /&gt;
If-None-Match: &#34;87af99f4cc3f479eaf691ac5697be113&#34;&lt;br /&gt;
User-Agent: Feedster Crawler/1.0; Feedster, Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
&#160;&lt;br /&gt;
denied_reason:&lt;br /&gt;
Header &#039;TE&#039; present but TE not specified in &#039;Connection&#039; header&lt;/pre&gt;
As you mentioned, I've observed a couple of rejections for Opera of which the following is an exemplar:
&lt;pre&gt;http_headers:&lt;br /&gt;
&#160;&lt;br /&gt;
GET /?p=2 HTTP/1.1&lt;br /&gt;
Host: www.kgadams.net&lt;br /&gt;
User-Agent: Opera/6.03 (Windows 2000; U) [en]&lt;br /&gt;
Pragma: no-cache&lt;br /&gt;
Accept: */*&lt;br /&gt;
Referer: http://www.kgadams.net/?p=2&lt;br /&gt;
Max-Forwards: 10&lt;br /&gt;
&#160;&lt;br /&gt;
denied_reason:&lt;br /&gt;
&#160;&lt;br /&gt;
Header &#039;Pragma&#039; without &#039;Cache-Control&#039; prohibited for HTTP/1.1 requests&lt;/pre&gt;
Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you being your own support forum, I am my own web host <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  The server running this site is upstairs in my house.</p>
<p>I have no reverse proxy installed.  In terms of Apache config&#8230;I&#8217;m running four VHosts on the same Apache instance.  The only other &#8220;strange&#8221; thing is I&#8217;m using that I can think of is mod_deflate.</p>
<p>This is what I&#8217;m seeing in the Bad Behavior log table for Feedster:</p>
<pre>http_headers:
GET /feed/ HTTP/1.1
TE: deflate,gzip;q=0.3
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, compress
From: <a href="mailto:webmaster@feedster.com">webmaster@feedster.com</a>
Host: <a href="http://www.kgadams.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.kgadams.net</a>
If-Modified-Since: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:26:38 GMT
If-None-Match: &quot;87af99f4cc3f479eaf691ac5697be113&quot;
User-Agent: Feedster Crawler/1.0; Feedster, Inc.
&nbsp;
denied_reason:
Header &#039;TE&#039; present but TE not specified in &#039;Connection&#039; header</pre>
<p>As you mentioned, I&#8217;ve observed a couple of rejections for Opera of which the following is an exemplar:</p>
<pre>http_headers:
&nbsp;
GET /?p=2 HTTP/1.1
Host: <a href="http://www.kgadams.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.kgadams.net</a>
User-Agent: Opera/6.03 (Windows 2000; U) [en]
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: */*
Referer: <a href="http://www.kgadams.net/?p=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.kgadams.net/?p=2</a>
Max-Forwards: 10
&nbsp;
denied_reason:
&nbsp;
Header &#039;Pragma&#039; without &#039;Cache-Control&#039; prohibited for HTTP/1.1 requests</pre>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2006/05/22/blog-spam-continues-to-pour-in-akismet-starting-to-miss-some#comment-2763</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 19:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. I am &lt;a href="mailto:badbots@ioerror.us" rel="nofollow"&gt;the Bad Behavior discussion/support forum&lt;/a&gt;. :)

As for Feedster, it is using TE correctly, according to my logs. If you're seeing it blocked, check to ensure your site isn't using a misconfigured HTTP accelerator (reverse proxy). This is usually squid, tux, or things along those lines, but some unusual Apache configurations might do it.

If Feedster is being blocked at your site, it's likely that so is the Opera web browser, so it's definitely something you'll want to work with your web host to get fixed, or if they're unwilling to fix it, to find a new web host.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. I am <a href="mailto:badbots@ioerror.us" rel="nofollow">the Bad Behavior discussion/support forum</a>. <img src='http://www.kgadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for Feedster, it is using TE correctly, according to my logs. If you&#8217;re seeing it blocked, check to ensure your site isn&#8217;t using a misconfigured HTTP accelerator (reverse proxy). This is usually squid, tux, or things along those lines, but some unusual Apache configurations might do it.</p>
<p>If Feedster is being blocked at your site, it&#8217;s likely that so is the Opera web browser, so it&#8217;s definitely something you&#8217;ll want to work with your web host to get fixed, or if they&#8217;re unwilling to fix it, to find a new web host.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2006/05/22/blog-spam-continues-to-pour-in-akismet-starting-to-miss-some#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Michael!

Thank you for developing &lt;a href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bad Behavior&lt;/a&gt;.  When I read about how it works, it seemed to me that it would frustrate spammers a great deal more than simply having their spam filtered.  My hope is that in combination with Akismet it will make the spam problem largely invisible to me and, at the same time, disadvantage the folks generating the spam enough to perhaps convince them to back off.

One thing I've noticed in my logs is that it appears Feedster's crawler (or at least something identifying itself as Feedster) is being blocked for incorrect use of the TE attribute.  My next step should probably be to track down a Bad Behavior discussion/support forum so I can find out more about whether this is expected/wanted behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Michael!</p>
<p>Thank you for developing <a href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/" rel="nofollow">Bad Behavior</a>.  When I read about how it works, it seemed to me that it would frustrate spammers a great deal more than simply having their spam filtered.  My hope is that in combination with Akismet it will make the spam problem largely invisible to me and, at the same time, disadvantage the folks generating the spam enough to perhaps convince them to back off.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;ve noticed in my logs is that it appears Feedster&#8217;s crawler (or at least something identifying itself as Feedster) is being blocked for incorrect use of the TE attribute.  My next step should probably be to track down a Bad Behavior discussion/support forum so I can find out more about whether this is expected/wanted behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.kgadams.net/2006/05/22/blog-spam-continues-to-pour-in-akismet-starting-to-miss-some#comment-2761</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole point behind Bad Behavior is to drive up the cost of blog spamming. In fact, the cost of sending spam goes up exponentially the more people use Bad Behavior.

The problem is that not enough people are using it. Which is why I'm developing &lt;a href="http://error.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;version 2&lt;/a&gt; to reach more platforms and stop even more spam on even more blog, wiki, forum and guestbook software packages.

In the meantime, while I haven't driven the spammers out of business yet, I've at least been able to provide virtually spam-free blogging. Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole point behind Bad Behavior is to drive up the cost of blog spamming. In fact, the cost of sending spam goes up exponentially the more people use Bad Behavior.</p>
<p>The problem is that not enough people are using it. Which is why I&#8217;m developing <a href="http://error.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">version 2</a> to reach more platforms and stop even more spam on even more blog, wiki, forum and guestbook software packages.</p>
<p>In the meantime, while I haven&#8217;t driven the spammers out of business yet, I&#8217;ve at least been able to provide virtually spam-free blogging. Enjoy!</p>
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